Another Oppo FiST Down! My Fiesta ST is in a bad way

"TheBaron2112" (TheBaron2112) 03/09/2015 at 15:18 • Filed to: None

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My FiST in happier times, with a friend.

So yeah. I was on a business trip last Wednesday from Nashville to Memphis, then back home. Trip down went well, I did my business in a business-like manner, and then I made the journey back. It's roughly 225 miles from one city to the other.

A couple weeks prior, Tennessee had some pretty nasty winter weather. Lots of freezing rain. Lots of ice. As such, there were potholes in most all of the roads.

Well, I was tooling along the interstate, going the speed limit, and I begin the third leg of my journey. It was night, it was raining, it was dark. And what appears before me, but a pothole.

Now, I say pothole. It was a chasm to the center of the Earth. Really, only 2-3" deep, but I hit it with the left wheels of my FiST.

But it happened so fast, I didn't realize what awfulness I had gotten myself into. Because there wasn't just one of these things. There were dozens. For probably 100 feet, I hit these big dirty bastards at full highway speed. By the time I could react, I had passed the potholes.

But it was over.

The vibration started. And it was noticeable at speeds above 40. Needless to say, I was slightly terrified. No flats, thankfully, and I made it home safe.

However, we come to today. FiST is in the shop, and I just get a call from the Dealer on the damage.

All. Four. Wheels. Are bent. (I hit some potholes on the right side too, apparently). One of the tires is showing its belt. All four wheels and all four tires need to be replaced to the tune of $2,319.19. And I bet the shocks are blown too. So there's that too. They haven't gotten to check those yet.

FiST is in shop for 3 days til everything comes in.

But seriously... If you buy a FiST on Oppo... Shit WILL go down. It's only a matter of time.

signinsrlame > TheBaron2112 03/09/2015 at 15:21

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that sucks

Jcarr > TheBaron2112 03/09/2015 at 15:22

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$2300 for 4 wheels and tires? Screw that. Get some aftermarket wheels.

bob and john > TheBaron2112 03/09/2015 at 15:22

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/spit take

HOW MUCH?!?!?!?!? EF THAT.. use this chance on go on tire rack and order yourself a bitching set of wheels and tires for WAY less then that.

TheBaron2112 > Jcarr 03/09/2015 at 15:23

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I don't want aftermarket wheels.

CB > TheBaron2112 03/09/2015 at 15:23

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How many does that put us at? I should start keeping track.

Also, paging K-Roll: don't fuck up!

TheBaron2112 > CB 03/09/2015 at 15:24

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K-Roll has a FoST. Maybe the hex just be 'pon the Fiestas.

sm70- why not Duesenberg? > TheBaron2112 03/09/2015 at 15:25

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That's the thing I hate about my low-profile all-seasons. The argument I forgot to make to my dad regarding winter tires is that, in addition to all the other countless advantages, soft, tall snow tires are less susceptible to pothole damage than my normal tires. I've already lost one tire to a pothole this hear, and if it were a snow tire it probably would've been okay.

TheBaron2112 > bob and john 03/09/2015 at 15:26

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I looked on Tire Rack, but I want stock wheels and the Bridgestone Potenzas that came on the car. They look the best.

Brian Silvestro > TheBaron2112 03/09/2015 at 15:26

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But they're lighter, cheaper, and look better

TheBaron2112 > Brian Silvestro 03/09/2015 at 15:27

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Agreed on the first two counts. I don't think they look better.

Jcarr > TheBaron2112 03/09/2015 at 15:27

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To each his own, but I couldn't stomach spending that much on OEM wheels.

CB > TheBaron2112 03/09/2015 at 15:27

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I think the curse affects the ST brothers, though. We've seen a lot of problems with both.

bob and john > TheBaron2112 03/09/2015 at 15:27

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is it REALLY worth 2300?

TheHondaBro > TheBaron2112 03/09/2015 at 15:28

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You mean you don't want Rolan teddy bear wheels?

TheBaron2112 > sm70- why not Duesenberg? 03/09/2015 at 15:28

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My problem is that snow tires (specifically the Blizzaks I looked at) are really only good below 40 degrees. So I'd have to keep switching them on and off throughout the winter since the temps fluctuate so much here in Tennessee.

TheBaron2112 > CB 03/09/2015 at 15:29

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Oh yeah then. K-Roll is NEXT

Brian Silvestro > TheBaron2112 03/09/2015 at 15:29

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then you haven't seen every aftermarket wheel for sale

jariten1781 > TheBaron2112 03/09/2015 at 15:31

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This is why mine is on 15s for the winter and stays that way even after the weather warms up till the potholes are all filled.

Check the forums and see if someone is selling some since you like the stock wheels. There's usually one or two up.

Tohru > TheBaron2112 03/09/2015 at 15:31

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Oh man you're getting taken to the cleaners. A quick car-part.com search shows those wheels at being $158 each used.

citizennick > TheBaron2112 03/09/2015 at 15:31

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surely there are guys on the Fiesta forum selling their wheels for cheap, it's not like they're in high demand. FoST wheels always go cheap on the forum.

TheBaron2112 > bob and john 03/09/2015 at 15:32

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When it comes to potential resale value and what I like my car to look like, yes. If I pick a specific aftermarket wheel, what are the odds the buyer I line up for it will like that wheel? Modifications don't add value except to the owner at the time. And I don't find value in it.

uofime > TheBaron2112 03/09/2015 at 15:32

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find someone who bought aftermarket wheels and buy their used stock ones. Maybe buy some steelies for next winter, they look real good on a Fist especially if you get the chrome centers

cazzyodo > TheBaron2112 03/09/2015 at 15:33

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Shit dude.

I was going along at 40 during a snow squall on Valentine's day and all of a sudden a fuckin' ditch appeared in the road. All I could say was "shit" as a warning to my gf as it ate my driver side front wheel.

I was fortunate, though. Winter tires and steel wheels were a-ok.

That storm down south screwed things up big time, though. Big part of my business in fuel runs through there.

cazzyodo > CB 03/09/2015 at 15:33

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I HOPE TO GOD YOU'RE WRONG

TheBaron2112 > Brian Silvestro 03/09/2015 at 15:35

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I'm open to ideas. Link away.

Sir_Stig: and toxic masculinity ruins the party again. > TheBaron2112 03/09/2015 at 15:35

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Because then you can get 16 or 15 inch rims and save yourself the potential for this to happen again.

TheBaron2112 > Tohru 03/09/2015 at 15:36

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But used wheels? Used how? Dents/dings?

Also, mine are the grey painted wheels. Not the silvery ones. So, it's literally the most expensive stock wheel. Huzzah options list.

citizennick > TheBaron2112 03/09/2015 at 15:36

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but spending 2,300 on new OEM wheels doesn't add value to your car since you're still putting money into it. The next seller isn't going to pay more because you happened to buy another set of OEM wheels to replace the bent ones.

Brian Silvestro > TheBaron2112 03/09/2015 at 15:40

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OZ Ultraleggeras http://www.tirerack.com/wheels/WheelCl…

Sparco Assetto Garas http://www.tirerack.com/wheels/WheelCl…

Personal favorite, Team Dynamics Pro Race:

Garrett Davis > TheBaron2112 03/09/2015 at 15:42

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Start looking around on forums, I'm sure you'll be able to find some wheels that someone is selling after replacing theirs. That price is absolutely ridiculous.

R Saldana [|Oo|======|oO|] - BTC/ETH/LTC Prophet > TheBaron2112 03/09/2015 at 15:47

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Haaaaay from Franklin!!!

jariten1781 > TheBaron2112 03/09/2015 at 15:50

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Buy a non-flashy design, swap the center cap to a Ford one and 99.9% of buyers will have no idea they're aftermarket. I've never had a problem moving a car with aftermarket wheels (exhausts, forced injection, etc. are a different story).

TheBaron2112 > R Saldana [|Oo|======|oO|] - BTC/ETH/LTC Prophet 03/09/2015 at 15:50

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Whats uuuup. Yeah, the only other FiST I've seen has been in Franklin.

TheBaron2112 > Garrett Davis 03/09/2015 at 15:51

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Yeah, I'm checking forums now to see.

Kanaric > TheBaron2112 03/09/2015 at 15:52

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Doesn't insurance cover this?

TheBaron2112 > citizennick 03/09/2015 at 15:53

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I'm not saying they will pay more. I'm saying I'm cutting my losses of how much less he'd pay me after seeing after aftermarket wheels.

And this isn't solely a resale value discussion. It's mostly because I like the stock wheels and I want to keep them.

Saracen > Brian Silvestro 03/09/2015 at 15:53

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don't forget the venerable Enkei RPF-1's.

Kanaric > TheBaron2112 03/09/2015 at 15:53

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stock vs aftermarket wheels on the car isn't going to affect resale

"If I pick a specific aftermarket wheel, what are the odds the buyer I line up for it will like that wheel?"

Then they will put new wheels on like they would anyways with the stocks

TheBaron2112 > Kanaric 03/09/2015 at 15:55

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Just got off the phone with them. They cover $750, it's considered under Collision, and the remainder past the 750 is broken down and applied as a surcharge on my monthly payment.

So, yes, but not really.

Steve Zissou > TheBaron2112 03/09/2015 at 15:55

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You had used wheels on it before, what's the difference? I bent my wheels on my Impreza, bought some OEM's on Craigslist, no regrets.

VAConundrum > TheBaron2112 03/09/2015 at 15:55

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Driving down to DC from NYC yesterday I hit a pothole with my left front wheel that definitely bottomed out the front suspension in my Gen Coupe. Luckily— no tire or wheel damage, but the impact force was enough to unseat the entire headlight assembly on the left side. A simple Fonzie thump was enough to reset it, but it still blew my mind that it was that significant of an impact. Happened in the middle of a 3 hour stretch of driving so I didn't even know until I got home...

Maybe this is the side effect of everybody and their grandmother buying SUVs. Who needs up-to-date infrastructure and well maintained roads when 90% of the vehicles on the market have 4+ inches of suspension travel. We may as well go back to cobblestones as far as local and state governments are concerned.

V8Demon - Prefers Autos for drag racing. Fite me! > VAConundrum 03/09/2015 at 15:57

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Roads in my area are definitely worse than they were 20 years ago.....

R Saldana [|Oo|======|oO|] - BTC/ETH/LTC Prophet > TheBaron2112 03/09/2015 at 15:57

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It wasn't me, I'm running around in either a bright blue Disco or a fading red 20 year old pickup

Brian Silvestro > Saracen 03/09/2015 at 16:00

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I don't know if they fit on the FiST, do they?

Saracen > Brian Silvestro 03/09/2015 at 16:16

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I don't know one way or the other...I just figured that since it is a very popular model, an offset and size that is friendly for a popular hot hatch would be made available.

Rico > TheBaron2112 03/09/2015 at 16:23

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Fuck man I'm scared after reading this, I hit something really bad on Satuday night just before I got home. Damp, unlit street I didn't even see the thing but I felt it! I'm going to drive my car today (I didn't move it yesterday) and see if I feel any vibrations.

JawzX2, Boost Addict. 1.6t, 2.7tt, 4.2t > TheBaron2112 03/09/2015 at 16:28

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For as heavy as they are the stock FieSTa wheels sure are fragile, I've got a bent one too, and not even any tire damage... It balances true with a little work, but it's for sure bent. I destroyed a tire last winter on my 15" MSW wheels and drove 2 miles on the flat because the damn ANC on the Fiesta is so good at correcting external directional input I didn't realize the tire was flat (No TPMS in the winters) and the wheel was FINE. The MSW TYPE23s in 15" only weigh about 16.5lbs, vs the 23lbs of the factory 17s

TheBaron2112 > Rico 03/09/2015 at 16:53

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You'll notice it. I don't know. Maybe you'll be good.

Keep in mind, I hit these deep potholes for about 100 total feet. Like a washboard. At 70mph. It was like a jackhammer.

wiffleballtony > TheBaron2112 03/09/2015 at 17:06

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Maybe it's Fords. I just got rear ended.

Nerd-Vol > TheBaron2112 03/09/2015 at 17:11

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http://www.tdot.state.tn.us/maintenance/po…

File a claim buddy.

TheBaron2112 > Nerd-Vol 03/09/2015 at 17:13

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You are a saint.

Rico > TheBaron2112 03/09/2015 at 17:48

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I've hit roads just as bad over the course of the winter but Saturday was so loud and hard I felt it in my soul.

K-Roll-PorscheTamer > TheBaron2112 03/09/2015 at 18:32

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Damn, you called it. :p

K-Roll-PorscheTamer > cazzyodo 03/09/2015 at 18:33

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Unfortunately, he wasn't.

http://oppositelock.jalopnik.com/dammit-1690395…

Long Live the Longdoor > TheBaron2112 03/09/2015 at 21:11

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Wow, kind of considering a FiST, but this Oppo curse is disheartening!

TheBaron2112 > Long Live the Longdoor 03/09/2015 at 21:14

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BREAK THE CURSE

OR BECOME IT

ONE OF US. ONE OF US.

Long Live the Longdoor > TheBaron2112 03/09/2015 at 21:15

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LMAO, I feel as if I'm in a tractor beam...

Dusty Ventures > TheBaron2112 03/09/2015 at 21:22

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How much of the $2,300 is wheels and how much is tires?

dogisbadob > TheBaron2112 03/09/2015 at 21:27

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This is why I hate new cars with no-profile tires and huge dubs. Yeah I know your ST is a performance model, but even the non-performance economy cars have the same big wheels for no reason at all :(

dogisbadob > TheBaron2112 03/09/2015 at 21:27

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nice Element

TheBaron2112 > Dusty Ventures 03/09/2015 at 21:32

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About $1200-$1300. The rest is mounting, balancing, alignment, shop stuff, labor, and taxes.

Dusty Ventures > TheBaron2112 03/09/2015 at 21:36

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16 inch wheels? If so are they 16x7 or 16x8?

TheBaron2112 > Dusty Ventures 03/09/2015 at 21:38

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17 inch wheels actually. They're 17x7s.

Dusty Ventures > TheBaron2112 03/09/2015 at 21:43

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Ok. I was going to say you could get a set of Braid rally wheels for less than $1,000 and you could pretty much dive bomb every pothole in the state without damaging them, but for 17's it would be closer to $1,200. Also I totally understand your desire to replace the OEM wheels with OEM wheels. They do look quite good.

TheBaron2112 > Dusty Ventures 03/09/2015 at 21:48

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Yeah. I'd love something like that, but $1200 is beyond what I want to do on wheels. Although, white would clash with my silver car. :P

My OCD won't let me make a style decision quickly or easily.

Tohru > TheBaron2112 03/09/2015 at 22:18

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Like, they were on a car that was totalled out by insurance.

Ah, I looked up the silver ones. For the gray ones, I found two listed "Like New, Insurance Quality" in Flint, MI for $172 each. Also, AAA Auto Parts in Rosemont, MN (aaaparts.com) says they will recondition your factory wheels for $133 each.

CrazyCracker > TheBaron2112 03/09/2015 at 23:47

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I was going to buy a Fukus ST3. But, a special order 13MY Fusion manual was left by the customer that placed the order. I quickly grabbed it up and the lease is almost over. What a great car. The same powertrain as the Fiesta ST (minus the higher output tune, same six speed trans.), but it's about 750-800 pounds heavier. The Fiesta ST leases are SUPER CHEAP!!! right now. But, I'm probably going Mustang EcoBoost Convertible (already have have a 15k mile Mustang GT Convertible). My wife can use on days I want to beat the shit out of her EcoBoost Flex lease. Let me tell you how fun those 365 hp AWD Flex Limited are in the snow....what was the point of this reply? Ahh, fuck, tired babbling. Good night.

CrazyCracker > TheBaron2112 03/09/2015 at 23:50

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Get some SVT Focus or E1 SVT Contour wheels just to be different. I can sell you a complete 1999 SVT Contour (93k miles) for the wheels and good Michelin tires.

boxrocket > TheBaron2112 03/10/2015 at 00:07

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Is your insurance deductible less than the wheels & tires? Also, a local lawyer may be able to argue your case about the conditions of the roadway and the municipality, city, state, department, etc., and they could split the replacement fee. Last year I got two sidewall bubbles from a day-fresh pothole in front of a local city hall, and they paid half the replacement cost, even though the prior tires were almost new. Better than nothing,

TheBaron2112 > boxrocket 03/10/2015 at 00:11

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Deductible is. But I called and they said they would cover $750 worth of the damage, but the rest would be prorated and applied to my insurance payment. So I'll pay for it either way AND it factors as a claim. So why would I do that?

Also, TDOT has been hit with so many potholes, they'll most likely claim it was an act of god that they couldn't get in front of, maintenance wise, and then say they provided adequate warning. There was a sign warning of potholes.

boxrocket > TheBaron2112 03/10/2015 at 01:30

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That sucks.

With that said, perhaps consider a second set of wheels and tires for winter months with smaller wheels and taller sidewalls, but same overall dimensions. It won't look nearly as good, but it could be worth it in the long run. There are bound to be some wheels off of a wrecked Fiesta available, and a good set of winter tires aren't too pricey. For my Volvo I run the factory 15" wheels and the 60-series sidewall in winter months now, and a set of 17" Moda R6s that I think are matched with 40- or 45-series sidewalls for the warmer months.

VAConundrum > V8Demon - Prefers Autos for drag racing. Fite me! 03/10/2015 at 12:35

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Side effect of our obsession with austerity IMO. We've had a real drop in infrastructure spending over the last 7 years. Maybe if politicians stopped calling it "infrastructure spending" and started calling it "spending on shit that all of us use and benefit from" we might actually see people support improvements to our crumbling roads and bridges and inefficient electrical grids. It would have made sense to have a huge investment in our roads and other infrastructure via a jobs program to get people back to work and rebuild our infrastructure in 2008 when 12-15% of the people in this country were out of work. Instead we got a bank bailout and austerity, everything's falling apart, and income inequality and artificially low upper-tax bracket rates have completely destroyed any revenue generating capability our government has to actually invest in the Country.

I think I need a Canyonero:

12 yards long, 2 lanes wide, 65 tons of American pride! Canyonero! Canyonero! Top of the line in utility sports, Unexplained fires are a matter for the courts! Canyonero! Canyonero! She blinds everybody with her super high beams, She's a squirrel-squashin', deer-smackin' drivin' machine, Canyonero! Canyonero! Canyonero! Whoa, Canyonero! Whoooooaaaa!

Kevin Barrett > TheBaron2112 03/15/2015 at 14:49

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I don't know the rest of the supporting evidence for the Oppo ST curse, but tall wheels, short sidewalls, and stiff suspension with little travel is going to mean bent wheels. See if 16" wheels with a taller side wall will fit. Fat tires on performance cars look bad-ass—which is why you're so attracted to that rally car in the other thread.

propagandhi2 > TheBaron2112 04/02/2015 at 15:00

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File a claim with your insurance. Road hazard caused this, not you!

TheBaron2112 > propagandhi2 04/02/2015 at 15:15

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That claim would make my insurance go up and would not cover it completely. No reason to.

propagandhi2 > TheBaron2112 04/03/2015 at 15:09

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Whats your deductible? If $500 or less I think it would be worth it. Anyway... sorry you have to be without your car for a while. I am about to be without my FiST for a while probably. Some idiot sideswiped me. Haven't gotten the estimate yet. Don't want to be without the car... I love it so much!

TheBaron2112 > propagandhi2 04/03/2015 at 15:42

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Deductible is $500, and they cover up to $750.

The wheels and tires and everything cost me $2300. The remainder of the $2300 minus the 750 would have been pro-rated onto my monthly insurance bill with who knows how much more of a charge.

So I just went ahead and paid it.